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et le first Vertical landing http-~~-//www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-cM3wPpCPw&feature=player_embedded

Greece to resell German submarine: minister Greece hopes to earn some 350 million euros (480 million dollars) by reselling a German-built submarine whose delivery was dogged by technical concerns, the Greek defence minister said on Wednesday. "The Germans are pricing the Papanikolis submarine at 300 million, let us calculate 350 million without being over-optimistic," Defence Minister Evangelos Venizelos told a news conference. Athens in 2006 had refused to accept delivery of the submarine built by German contractors ThyssenKrupp after Greek Navy inspectors declared it defective during test runs off the port of Kiel. But Venizelos on Wednesday insisted that "improvements" had been carried out at ThyssenKrupp's HDW shipyards and that the Greek Navy was now prepared to declare the vessel seaworthy. "This is what (the Navy) have told us, this is what they will tell Greek parliament as well," he said He added: "This discussion about a listing submarine which we are trying to sell... is harmful to the public interest." Greece in 2000 had ordered four new 214-class submarines and an overhaul for three of its older 209-class submarines from HDW. Most of the order was to have been carried out at Hellenic Shipyards near Athens, which were acquired by HDW in 2002, three years before it merged with ThyssenKrupp. Athens has already paid out 2.03 billion euros on the project out of a total estimated cost of 2.84 billion in current prices with nothing to show for it, the minister said. Venizelos on Wednesday said plans to overhaul two of the older submarines would now be scrapped and that two new submarines would be ordered instead at a cost of 500 million euros apiece. The Greek government, struggling with a debt crisis and facing a huge effort to restructure the economy, hopes that the submarine deal will smooth the way for ThyssenKrupp to shed 75 percent of its stake in the struggling Greek shipyards to the Abu Dhabi Mar group. It has said the sale offers a chance to save the jobs of 1,300 workers. Venizelos also said another "major" project to purchase French frigates would also be carried out. "A difficult and long negotiation at state and commercial level is ongoing (on the issue)," he said. defense aerospace Houra, ils gardent quand meme les Fremm

Ou parles t on des ravitailleurs alors? Ou surtout, du remplacement des ravitailleur français (somme, meuse etc) J'aurai bien posté dans "Les programmes navals français: Baraccuda, FREMM, Horizon" mais on m'aurait dit encore que c'est le mauvais fil...

Un autre concepte de petrolier ravitailleur "a tout faire" http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/5552/jss4a.jpg C'est le JSS Hollandais

X2 Deja que comme disait Chirac ''Ca n'est pas trés malin'' d'avoir choisi le F16 plutot que les 2000, alors meme qu'on leur accordait l'honneur de rentrer dans l'Europe

:oops: Denmark Bails From JSF - Report :oops: Denmark's defense ministry is ready to recommend designating the Boeing F/A-18E/F Super Hornet as its next fighter, in place of the delayed and more expensive F-35 Joint Strike Fighter, according to a report on Danish radio. According to the report, the Danish decision has been in the works for some months and currently awaits an auditor's review before being forwarded to the full government and to parliament. The Gripen NG has also been ruled out - not a big surprise to Saab, which has scaled back its campaign in Denmark. Uncertainty about the country's choice of the JSF has risen in recent months, in the context of the program's own difficulties and a recent series of major government procurements gone awry: EH101 Merlin helicopters which were sold back to the UK, Sagen Sperwer UAVs deactivated and sold to Canada, and the much delayed IC4 high-speed train project. Denmark is also likely to delay both its decision and the delivery date for new fighters, which are expected to enter service in 2017-18. Delays to JSF and the Pentagon's continued consideration of a further multi-year Super Hornet buy mean that the Boeing fighter is more likely to stay in production until then, and extend its retirement date. http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/blogs/defense/index.jsp?plckController=Blog&plckBlogPage=BlogViewPost&newspaperUserId=27ec4a53-dcc8-42d0-bd3a-01329aef79a7&plckPostId=Blog%3a27ec4a53-dcc8-42d0-bd3a-01329aef79a7Post%3aed128b0f-74e2-4a36-be32-184ca2060ce4&plckScript=blogScript&plckElementId=blogDest Meme si ils veulent du Super Hornet a la place, c'est deja ça!

Marine nationale : Inquiétante réduction du nombre de patrouilleurs http://www.meretmarine.com/article.cfm?id=112654 Cela commence a devenir urgent! Et qu'est ce que c'est que ces histoires de bateau Hondurien saisi qu'on vent envoyer comme patrouilleur a la Reunion :'( Faut arreter! On en est vraiment à ce point? Bientot ils vont "réquisitionner" tous les bateaux immobilisés à Brest pour non comformités et les envoyer comme patrouilleurs à Wallis et Futuna, Mayotte, St Pierre ou en Guyanne

Marine nationale : Inquiétante réduction du nombre de patrouilleurs http://www.meretmarine.com/article.cfm?id=112654 Cela commence a devenir urgent! Et qu'est ce que c'est que ces histoires de bateau Hondurien saisi qu'on vent envoyer comme patrouilleur a la Reunion :'( Faut arreter! On en est vraiment à ce point? Bientot ils vont "réquisitionner" tous les bateaux immobilisés à Brest pour non comformités et les envoyer comme patrouilleurs à Wallis et Futuna, Mayotte, St Pierre ou en Guyanne

Ca ne plairait pas aux Britons si?

De l'OSF, dans une nuit sans lune ça doit etre jouable?

Il y le concept aile volante de Boeing, avec les moteur sur le toit (que Airbus a repris il me semble)

J'aime bien la video METEOR... ça fait trés style Ricain

Ou des "vieux shnocks" du genre "les F1/Jaguar/SEM" c'etaient/ce sont des "vrais" avions que tu sents voler, que tu maitrises. Le Rafale c'est trop "d'electronique" le pilote ne maitrise plus la bete, il est assisté. Mais bon, à ce train la on volerait encore en Dewoitine... ou en Crusader pour faire moins imagé :)

Danish airforce dumps F-35, recommends SH http://www.dr.dk/Nyheder/Penge/2010/03/15/112521.htm Note that this does not mean that Denmark has decided not to buy F-35; what's reported is that the Danish Airforces prefers the SH to the F-35.... Interesting and surprising.

Ils ont deja des problemes de ponts qui fond sous la chaleurs des turbines des Ospreys

Vous vous rendez compte que les SEM tenaient tetes a des Tomcats? source:http://instapinch.com/?p=528

Hervé Morin le citait récemment en exemple, le JSF a tenu ses promesses... de dépassement de coût, comme le signale sportivement Stars&Stripes. la suite chez lemamouth. Marant que Morin suive ce programme :) c'est pour relativiser les problemes de l'a400m?

Ben en fait je telecharge le fichier ZIP, je les décompresse, et ensuite je les upload via http://tinypic.com/

L'AMC de RTD, c'est pour le VBMR ou autre chose?

http://www.cphpost.dk/news/national/88-national/48487-joint-strike-fighter-price-now-double.html

oui mais attention: http://www.saabgroup.com/en/MediaRelations/Pressreleases/Pressrelease.htm?PressreleaseId=195378 Defence and security company Saab has received an order from FMV (the Swedish Defence Materiel Administration) concerning development of the existing Gripen fleet Donc rien pour le NG... sur MP.net: reponse de Signatory:

F-35 Unit Cost Projection 2001 : $50.2 million 2010 : $95 ~ 113 million 2016 : ????(Actual USAF/USN service introductory date) :oops:

Test pilot Graham Tomlinson guides the supersonic F-35B Lightning II stealth fighter in a 40-knot (46 mph) flight above Naval Air Station Patuxent River, Md., then descends for a 75-knot (86 mph) slow landing. The flight on Wednesday, March 3, was one of the last missions before the aircraft's first vertical landing. http-~~-//www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpFlN-OvD04