L'Inde

[Philippe Top-Force]

update Reuters

* Defence min source: Rafale jet is cheaper, preferred

http://www.*******.com/article/2012/01/31/india-defence-idUSL4E8CV3XR20120131

Ne vendons pas la peau de l'ours (avec la Suisse, Brezil Maroc tout ça) mais on va dire que ça "sent mieux" qu'il y a quelques semaines

C'est comme sur les émirats, où le PR Sarkozy devait s'y rendre brièvement ces jours-ci et qu'il vient encore de décaler comme voyage.

Mais on voit bien que la France est disposée à baisser les prix concurrentiels, donner des gages de géostratégies et des accords de défense plus pointus.

Voir formation/ entraînement/TOT/aides militaires/accès satellites.

Sébastien respire un grand coup pour ventiler  :lol: TMor enlève cette potence c'est morbide  :lol: et trop pessimiste ...

[zx]

hmmmm, tant que c'est pas officiel, rien n'est fait, tant que le contrat n'est pas signé, rien n'est fait.

http://livefist.blogspot.com/2011/05/indian-politician-says-sonia-gandhi-has.html

If the Indian M-MRCA fighter competition wasn't quite surreal enough, in comes an Indian politician-economist, notably re-energized by his current association with India's "anti-corruption" movement and India's monumental telecom scam investigation, to stir the pot some more. A known fire-bomber with an unabashed antipathy to India's ruling Congress party, Subramanian Swamy has now apparently trained his ire at the IAF's $12-billion M-MRCA fighter deal.

Swamy, officially leader of the Janata Party, but best known for years as a voluble and dogged government baiter on all matters graft, says he has written to Indian Prime Minister Dr Manmohan Singh making some very dramatic allegations. The letter (full text in image above) was written on April 29, two days after the dramatic M-MRCA elimination. Like all his letters, this one says that it draws on "inside information" from within the government. Let's get to the contents:

Swamy writes: "My sources indicate that the pre-determined decision to favour the French aircraft [Dassault's Rafale] was the outcome of several conversations between the wife of French President Ms. Carla Bruni and the Chairperson of the National Advisory Council Ms. Sonia Gandhi, and surprisingly also with two foreign nationals who are the sisters of Ms. Sonia Gandhi."

It is not clear what information Swamy has based his allegations on.

At the very least, it should be said that Subramanian Swamy was once quite aptly described by a leading news weekly as "the Professor Moriarty to Sonia's Sherlock Holmes", so there shouldn't be any real surprise that the target of his letter is specifically the Congress Party president. That said, the allegations he makes are indubitably explosive. Swamy's letter refers to "credible information" in his possession, but says nothing about what this credible information is. It is not clear if he has shared any further information with the Prime Minister apart from this letter.

The operative part of his letter goes: "Based on some credible information given to me on the conversation between Ms. Carla Bruni and Ms Sonia Gandhi’s sisters, there has been an agreement of the French to pay a hefty bribe for favouring the purchase of French aircrafts."

Interestingly, a popular Indian military commentator has made a slightly backhanded allusion to pretty much the same thing today. In this column published in today's Pioneer, Maj Gen (Retd) Ashok Mehta writes, "The IAF favours the Rafale not the least because the French are promising the moon. There is also a high level back channel Italian connection, they say." So either the columnist has read Subramanian Swamy's letter, or has his own "insiders", in which case, as you've no doubt guessed, we have two prominent Indian figures saying that the Rafale has already been chosen to win the M-MRCA competition, and that it took a high-level government connection -- Swamy names Sonia Gandhi, the Maj Gen her nationality -- to work it through.

It should be reiterated that neither of these controversial assertions has been backed in substance -- at least as far as I know -- in either the letter or the column. We'll have to see where this goes.

[prof.566]

oui méfiance mais...

http://www.stratpost.com/rafale-wins-mmrca?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+stratpost+%28StratPost%29

T he French Dassault fighter aircraft Rafale has been selected to be the Medium Multi Role Combat Aircraft (MMRCA) of the Indian Air Force (IAF).

Dassault beat the four-nation consortium’s Eurofighter on price, with the fighter being identified as L1, or the lowest technically qualified bid.

StratPost understands that Dassault has been issued a letter from the Ministry of Defense, communicating their selection.

Three representatives of the Eurofighter consortium were also summoned to the Ministry of Defense at South Block on Tuesday afternoon, when they were informed of their loss in the competition.

The bid was originally estimated to be worth USD 10.4 billion, as per the budget estimate approved in 2007, but it is likely to have faced a substantial escalation in cost, keeping in mind inflation and the fall in the value of the Indian Rupee

[xav]

ON A GAGNéééééééééééé

   livefist Livefist Blog

   Confirmed! Dassault Rafale declared lowest bidder in #MMRCA competition.

:oops:

[zx]

Chuuuuuuut !

[prof.566]

Apparemment d'après livefist lettre d'intention en voyée et d'après les forums indiens c'est sur toutes les chaines de télé

[xav]

Dassault website is super slow lol...  no press release yet

[ROXEL 17]

Gardons la tête froide !

http://www.lesechos.fr/entreprises-secteurs/air-defense/actu/0201872617666-le-rafale-de-dassault-remporte-l-appel-d-offre-indien-282330.php

[xav]

Tout Air-Défense sur les Champs façon France 98  :oops:

[zx]

J'y croirais quand ca sera signé, je me méfie des contre-propositions  =)

[Castor]

J'y croirais quand ca sera signé, je me méfie des contre-propositions  =)

Je partage la prudence de ZX mais ne peux m'empecher d'etre optimiste  =)

[seb24]

Oui excellente nouvelle. Mais reste à consolider la victoire et transformer la sélection du Rafale en vente ferme.

[move] :oops:  :oops:  :oops:  :oops:  :oops:  :oops:          [/move]

[hernandez973]

i télé annonce 126 rafale

[RPD]

En espérant que ça va faire avancer les autres contrats !

Bonne nouvelle !  =)

Fini la réputation de l'avion invendu !  :oops:

EDIT : Parler brièvement sur Tf1

[Chaps]

L'INDE A CHOISI LE RAFALE  OFFICIEL AFP !

[yoannc]

Annonce juste a l'instant au JT de tf1, de Pernault

[seb24]

En espérant que ça va faire avancer les autres contrats !

Bonne nouvelle !  =)

Fini la réputation de l'avion invendu !  :oops:

On peut se réjouir et je pense que c'est une victoire mérité.

Mais attendons que le contrat soit bouclé ( de ce que je comprends c'est que ça sera surement signé en mars ? ).

Je pense que nos "amis" anglais et US vont essayer quelques manoeuvres.

[Grabber56]

La source n'est pas identifiée. Ça ne pèse pas lourd !

tu sais pas lire convenablement  Thomas ,  la c'est quand les journalistes de Reteurs sont au mindef ,  le ministre parle, mais ils ont eu des sources bien plus intéressantes que des rumeurs propagées sur un blog qq semaines avant!

la decla officielle sera dans les jours qui viennent !

we won it!

[Philippe Top-Force]

i télé annonce 126 rafale

Toutes les chaînes d'information en continue l'annoncent, TF1 à LCI, I TV et BFM TV

[JASHUGAN]

BFM TV annonce aussi  ! YEEEEEESSSS  :oops: :oops:

edit

(dsl philippe  =D)

[Philippe Top-Force]

Les journaux Indiens http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Dassault-Rafale-wins-the-MMRCA-deal-beating-Eurofighter-Typhoon/articleshow/11700251.cms

[Philippe Top-Force]

Le FIGARO même s'il appartient au GIMD  :lol: http://www.lefigaro.fr/flash-eco/2012/01/31/97002-20120131FILWWW00433-dassault-vend-126-rafale-a-l-inde.php

AURAIT REMPORTE

Élise LUCET vient de l'annoncer sur France 2 à 13h22

Dassault Aviation * aurait remporté l'appel d'offres pour fournir à l'Inde 126 avions de chasse, première vente du Rafale à l'exportation, rapporte aujourd'hui l'agence de presse indienne Press Trust of India. D'après le Times of India, le montant du contrat s'élèverait à un peu plus de 10 milliards de dollars

Un peu plus tôt, l'agence Reuters avait indiqué que le Rafale était le candidat le moins cher de l'appel d'offres pour la fourniture des 126 avions, selon des sources gouvernementales.

Le Rafale et le Typhoon du consortium Eurofighter, composé d'EADS, BAE Systems et Finmeccanica, sont les deux finalistes pour ce contrat évalué à 11 milliards de dollars (8,3 milliards d'euros). Mardi, le ministre indien de la Défense a déclaré que New Delhi ne se prononcerait pas avant fin mars sur l'attribution du contrat.

* Le groupe Dassault est propriétaire du Figaro.

[Julien]

C'est une grande nouvelle. il faut maintenant arriver un signer un contrat ce qui ne sera quand même pas forcément sans soucis. En tout cas, ca renforce le Rafale sur les autres négociations ça c'est sûr.

[eikkN]

http://livefist.blogspot.com/

India Chooses The Rafale

"The Indian government has declared the Dassault Rafale the lowest bidder in the Medium Multirole Combat Aircraft (M-MRCA) competition. A final contract will be signed following negotiations by March this year. When the deal is signed, it will be Dassault's first export contract for the Rafale. The Rafale pips the Eurofighter Typhoon for what is by far India's largest aerospace contract"

[xav]

France 2 reported the news so it should be true.

lol

"l'avion qu'on pensait invendable a enfin trouvé preneur"...  :roll: with media like these... who needs competition

Sympas France 2... en plus ils ont meme pas cité les 10 Milliard.... pourquoi ?